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27 April 2010



I must say you are well spoken. A very good response. Seeing this guy only wanted a response that was angry and all his points were either straw man arguments or just plain cheap shots I can assume what this guy was obviously up too. I just love how this guy pretends he is above any racism or ethnocentrism but spent all his effort attacking one ethnic group only.

Its funny in the hyper sensitive west where the buzz word of the day is antiracism, I come across so called antiracists who have nothing but what would be deemed racist comments about greeks. And characterizing all greeks as ethnocentric bigots. I find this is for two reasons. One the greeks are different enough from the so called west to feel no affilliation with plus politically correctness in the form of multiculturalism has attacked Greek civilization as it is seen as a symbol of the west.

But this guy ARDI is not liberal, don't want to make any accusations as I will be falling for the trap this clown is trying to set.

an excellent response.bravo stavro.

Kevin McEvily

Dear Stavros,
Expecting stout (and universal) agreement with the eloquence of your reply to Ardi from the heart of the MGO readership, I thought I might add some validation from the real Xenoi (a designation that I believe excludes you, old friend, notwithstanding the accidents of your birth). But as I was about to add a thumping “Hear, hear!” to the comment form, I noticed that your essay even Hellenized me. So, I substitute what I hope is a more appropriate, if equally repetitious response: Efcharisto; go raibh maith agat.




I have been following the financial news with obvious interest. I too am surprised by the way all Greeks are suddenly portrayed as lazy and corrupt. It is amazing how political correctness only applies to certain groups.


Your encouragement is much appreciated.


Tá fáilte romhat.


Hi Stavros
I am much impressed by you reply to your friend's Ardi's comments.
I understand Ardi has received an education of sorts, and ought to know that it is by looking to ones past that a person can progress into the future, by examining one's history, culture, and achievements, and passing on one's history and traditions first to his children and then to the wider world, this way thus enlightning people like Ardi.
All Greeks are proud of our country's history, and traditions, culture, heritage, language, afterall we civilised the world, your very language is Greek, your buildings are Greek, haven't Ardi visited Washington, or London, the Parthenon is everywhere.!
Ardi man, don't you know that everyone is really Greek, is some of us are more so and we are very proud. Gia sou levendi Stavro.


What Ardi wrote is a classic example of anti-Hellenism.


"I am admittedly a poor excuse for a Greek. I wasn't born in Greece, neither were my parents or grandparents. I don't live in Greece, I am not a Greek citizen, don't have a Greek passport nor do I own property in Greece."

And you are nto a Greek by blood at all. You are 100% Albanian.

"All Greeks are proud of our country's history, and traditions, culture, heritage, language, afterall we civilised the world,"

Marios, odds are that you are a Vlachs, Turk Slav or Albanian as supposed to being connected to the Greeks of 2500 years ago. By 1800's Greek meant an Orthodox Christian, or Roman like you used to call yourself.


I to, am of the same ethnic heritage and background as Stavros> There is a little bit of greek in all races suprisingly, and by that I mean, the same pricipals and values that were inherant in the early greek civilisations.
I tend to call myself an Australian of Greek heritage.

To be greek, is not of a geographical significance, but moreso, a state of mind.


"Poverty of the soul is poverty of the worst kind."

agree Stavros. Has been a while since i visited your site. I've been thinking a lot about 'Greek values' lately, and what it means to be Greek, especially as an uncle of mine died from cancer last week and i just attended his funeral. He was of great significance to our family history, as he was one of the first Greeks on my mother's side to migrate to Australia, and brought others along with him. His house was the 'place to be' in the 50's and 60's, and many people had their wedding and christening parties there. So his death really is an end of an era for my family. His values were in marked constrast to not only the society i live in today, but even to that of his own daughters. He loved Greek philosophy and always used to emphasise what he believed were 'Greek values', and reminded us plenty of times when it means to be Greek, and how modern Greece has indeed lost its way.

It's just a sad day for me in general, and while this isn't the most appropriate thread for this sort of comment, this website feels like the appropriate place.

Hope all is well Stavros.



Some of the best Greeks I have known never set foot in Greece nor had a speck of Greek blood flowing in their veins.


Please forgive the lateness of my reply, I have been rather overwhelmed lately with the details of modern life and I have neglected MGO and its readers far too long. It is good to hear from you again. I am truly sorry to hear of your Uncle's passing. Many of his generation suffered and struggled. They never lost their self-respect. They tried as best they could to teach us what was important. Our failures are truly our own.

May his memory be eternal and try to teach your children well.

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