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  • Keep Ithaka always in your mind. Arriving there is what you're destined for. But don't hurry the journey at all. Better if it lasts for years, so you're old by the time you reach the island, wealthy with all you've gained on the way, not expecting Ithaka to make you rich. Ithaka gave you the marvelous journey. Without her you wouldn't have set out. She has nothing left to give you now. And if you find her poor, Ithaka won't have fooled you. Wise as you will have become, so full of experience, you'll have understood by then what these Ithakas mean. C. P. Cavafy

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Margaret

Stavros, I really enjoyed reading about your Papou. I imagine that he might greet you with the words "It was all worth it".

Susan Bournelis

My daughter Christina just told us about your site. I am married to a Greek!! Have been for 36 years:)
I so enjoyed your piece on your Pappou. My husband's father just died in Greece, and my son, his namesake, felt the loss so strongly.
Pappou kept waiting for Yianni, our son, to have a son and name him Petros. My husbands name!!
I know that you have to be Greek to understand the importance of this tradition.

Stavros

Margaret,

Thank you. Readers may be thinking that I come from a family where people never do anything wrong nor make mistakes. Far from it. We are quite human in every respect and often succumb to human foibles.

In my writing I like to concentrate on those things I admire and respect in others. The things that I want my children and grandchildren to remember and hopefully emulate about those that came before them. In the case of my Papou, the facts of his life speak for themselves.

I'm glad you found something in this post that appealed to you. I respect your opinions.

Stavros

Susan,

Thank you. After 36 years you are probably more Greek than we are.It's not always easy marrying into a Greek family as my brother-in-law can tell you. It is, however, in most cases, entrance into an extremely close, warm family relationship.

I am particularly fond of the custom of naming your child after grandparents rather than yourself. Both my sons are named after their papous.

Hermes

Stavros, another excellent post. It appears you have conducted some very worthy primary and secondary research into your family. And I look how you point out how the example of his life was the best gift. There are not many men built like that any more.

I never saw my papou either but I was also named after him (no, GANYC he was not named Hermes). He was a decorated veteran of the Albanian front. Because of our names, same physiognamy and "strange" green eyes the old people think a ghost is wandering around the Chora when I visit our beautiful Ionian Island. He has always been there for me.

Stavros

Hermes,

Thanks. Think about this for a moment, your grandfather was part of the effort that gave my grandfather the opportunity, however short, to live on Greek soil. For this gift, fleeting though it was, I will always praise and respect the heroes of 1940; may their memories be eternal. Greeks, no matter where they find themselves, have much more in common than they realize or is readily apparent. We are interconnected on a variety of levels.

beal

Biddeford may be a factory town but is probably ten times nicer and less "dingy" than the towns in that third-world country your relative hails from. Albania?

Stavros

Beal,

In 1907, when my grandfather arrived, the main attraction were the mills spewing their waste into the air and the Saco River. They were surrounded by the decrepit, overcrowded company housing that was a breeding ground for disease. The main street was a dirt road ankle deep in horse manure, the main mode of transportation. I'd say describing it as dingy would be understating the reality of Biddeford in those days.

Today, Biddeford's main attraction is the plant that burns New England's trash and is situated in the middle of the downtown area. It's scenic smokestack spews an aromatic witch's brew into the air. Old habits die hard. Biddeford today would be quite unrecognizable to my grandfather, it is dotted by strip malls and fast food joints. The jobs it produces are mostly minimum wage and unable to support a family even with both parent's working.

Your disdain for the third world countries that many immigrants hail from is duly noted. The majority are failed states for one reason or another, and their poverty is dingy, however, dinginess does not always constitute a poverty of the soul. This type of poverty which we Americans increasingly suffer from is much more serious and may even be terminal. Perhaps we should keep in mind that these third world immigrants helped build America, brick by brick. They fought and died in America's wars and are doing so even today.

Stavros Stavridis

A moving account of the Greek immigrant who came to America to improve his economic position and worked very hard under deplorable working conditions but survived and succeeded in his new adopted homeland.
We should not forget that these people left a wonderful legacy which we are the beneficiaries of today. May we always honor and respect them for their efforts and ingraining in us the love of Greece. America has proved a wonderful place for Greeks since the late 19th century. I salute them for their courage, decency and hard work.

Stavros Stavridis

I have an official document dated 1941 which provides an excellent overview of Northern Epirus. Would be glad to scan it and send it as a pdf for it to be posted on your website. Please let me know if you are interested.

Ted Laskaris

Stavros,
Pappou's story sounds so very familiar in both the sense of hope of our immigrant ancestors and the realization that, sometimes, our life dreams just won't be realized. Pappou was no doubt a man of great preseverance and dedication, qualities in tremendously short supply nowadays. How much we can learn from the lives of these sturdy, honest, heroic people. Sometimes I wish we could turn the clock back and let only happiness guide all of our and our loved ones' lives. Dreams, dreams... Thanks for yet another moving, lucid article.

Stavros

Stavros,

I'd love to have the document in question and make it available to MGO readers.Thanks for your support and comments.

Ted,

Thank you for you comments. I've been trying to visit your new blog when I can and I love what you are doing with it. I wish I could comment more often there.

You and I are on the same wave length on so many things it scares me.

Both,

Sorry for the delay in responding to your comments.

John Nicholson[formally Yiannis Nikolaides]

Thankyou for your writings. They have stirred my emotions. The tears of joy flow freely.
My father migrated to Australia for a new life and escape the Ottoman yoke. Regrettfully he embraced the new at the expense of the old and passed little down the line.
I have now become a papou and look to sites like yours to seek an understanding of a wonderful heritage of Greek blood. Never too late to learn.
Thanks again

Stavros

Yianni,

You are very right, it is never too late and there is so much to learn. Many Greek immigrants from the entire expanse of the Greek world, which is not confined to the boundaries of the present Greek state, longed for a better life. Some threw a rock behind them, as the Greek saying goes and leapt headlong into their new life, by trying to forget the old one.

I hope that you will find some things on MGO that will bring you closer to your father, maybe even understand the forces that shaped him and perhaps awaken some long dormant Hellenic spirit that lives inside you.

Thank you for your inspring comments.

sue karpathios

trying to find john e nikas email address.can you hrlp me?He is my mothers 1st. cousin and lives in booklyn.

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